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Dear EMu Users,

KE Software have recently made some fixes to the EMu client installation package which make it possible to set up unattended installations. This makes installing/upgrading the EMu client across a large number of desktops a much easier process.

I have written an FAQ on how to set this up - you'll find it on the FAQ page. Post any questions/comments (or typo alerts!) here.

Forbes Hawkins
Museum Victoria

Hi Will,

The design evolved based on user comments of a time long ago.

The reason we have the holders in the reverse order to the locations relates to the length of the summary data string once you get a holder in a holder at a location. In this situation you end up with a long summary data string with the broadest information at the beginning and the narrowest information lost at the end. This causes problems with the display on screen and with reports.

We can change the order as a configuration for your organization. Like any of these changes you risk losing benefits that are added to the standard versions in the future. I am happy to discuss this with you if it is a direction you wish to consider.

Alan Brooks
KE Software Inc

t. +1 604 87 1960 Ext. 112
f. +1 604 877 1961

Hi Joanna

probably not telling you anything you didn't know but
just in case you hadn't come across much about these, thought worth mentioning them

1. is an Australia system that maps faunal collection data from multiple collections including IZ data

2. regarding georeferencing, ORNIS MaNIS and HerpNET all GBIF related are doing work on georeferencing (I think all using Biogeomancer) but there may be contacts there that may be of use if you haven't already gone down this path. See ORNIS NSF submission … _final.pdf

hope something here of some use




Just thought i would let you know that some of your wish list is already available. wrote:
> A new message has been posted to a thread you have been tracking on www.EMuUsers.Org.
> ------------------
> From: jmccaffrey
> Date: 2/7/2006 3:14:24 AM
> Subject: Web feature wish list - my top 7
> Hello,
> I've been sitting on this list of wishes for some time, and I guess there is no chance of seeing them appear if I don't share them! Below is a list of user-friendly features I'd like to see added to the web objects, in no particular order:
> 1) ability to have more than one query term in any form field

This is already available.
You can make it so that a form field can query across different fields and tables.

> 2) provide next, previous progress navigation for the detailed page

Next and Previous links are available. Im not sure what you mean by progress navigation (do you mean a status of how many records have been retrieved so far ?).

> 4) export result list to CSV and PDF

You can export to CSV format. There is a CsvExporter object that can be set up.

> 5) place an image glyph/link in the results list to indicate image(s) are available

Im assuming that you mean that there should be a little thumbnail indicating weather a image is attached to an object in the results list.
This is already available (its a thumbnail with a "No Image Available" title on it).

> 6) sort ability on the results list, an any column visible

This is available already (but column headings which can be clicked to sort on that column is not available).

> 7) be able to link to other modules from a results list, or detailed view, e.g., if I'm looking at a query on the taxonomy page, I would like to be able to jump to a display of all the catalogue records of that taxon.

This is possible. It depends on how the EMu web system has been set up.

Martin Jujou

KE Software Pty Ltd.

Hi Will,

I spoke with Robert Patterson at CMCC about this again and he tested attaching jpegs created in Photoshop 7 with the progressive option turned on. Running reports that include those images ran fine on his system. They are using Crystal reports 8.5 and EMu 2. I would suggest contacting the support departments for Business Objects and the makers of photoshop to see if there are any known issues surrounding using progressive jpegs created in photoshop cs2 in crystal reports (9?).


Hi Will,

I sent this to your personal inbox but I thought I'd put this out for everyone to see. I'm not sure if this is completely accurate but I've found that the progressive compression is used for jpeg 2000 format images (.jp2). I'm pretty sure that earlier versions of Crystal Reports do not support jpeg2000 format but later versions supposedly do (if this is even a jpeg2000 issue).

I also spoke to Robert Patterson at CMCC about this and he said that he was having similar problems with images saved in Photoshop, though he didn't mention anything about the progressive compression. They had to update their version of photoshop to resolve this issue. What version of photoshop are you using? Bob is going to let me know what version they were having problems with and the version that they now have that has resolved this issue. I'll let you know.


Hi Lisa,

KE Software has a Portal system that links other collections together. The system uses common protocols to talk to other EMu systems and/or non-EMu systems. The collective data may be interchanged as XML or other common formats, viewed or plotted on a map. The system can be configured to enable a user to drill down from the map into a specific record. the map uses standard layers (often referred to as 'shape' files as they have a .shp extension) which can be obtained from various organizations (sometimes free and sometimes at a cost). Examples of these layers are road, rivers, political boundaries,, etc.

I can provide you with some details and sites to look at if you would like them.

Alan Brooks

Alan Brooks
KE Software Inc

t. +1 604 87 1960 Ext. 112
f. +1 604 877 1961

Hi JP - actually EMu does a bit of both.

In general, EMu uses the former method. However there is also a process which synchronises location data between parent/child records - see … nclude.pdf for details.

It is technically possible to apply that same method to fields other than those related to Locations. However we have investigated this at Museum Victoria we have found that it is not quite that simple (for us at least). The problem is that there are always exceptions to the rule - in some cases we want data to be synchronised between records and in other cases we do not. In our case we have found that the set of rules required to automate this process are extremely complex and subject to failure as the data evolves.

Perhaps your requirements are less complex - but the other consideration is that there will be a performance cost as the server will be required to do additional processing and data loading.


We are interested in hearing from those users who have subclassed parts of the Sites Module, particularly in relation to the Locality and Mapping tabs, and as it applies to natural history collections. This is in relation to discussions we are currently having about structures that allow for the storage of data as originally received as well as it's storage in another form as a result of a translation or correction. For example, an arrangement which would allow a geocode to be received and stored in a particular field in various formats (e.g decimal degrees, degrees decimal minutes, degrees minutes seconds) and one that also allows these various formats to be converted to a standard format and stored in another field. How have other users dealt with such issues in EMu?

We here at the National Museum of Naval Aviation use the Events Module as a place to organize our internal exhibits/displays or loaned out exhibits/displays. It is a great tool for organization for exhibits that are not used year round (or permanent) so that the next time it is used it can be assembled more quickly. With the ability to put imagery in this module it makes it so great so the next person who designs the exhibit can see what was done last time for ideas. We did not start using it heavily until this past year and we have found it invaluable. I recommend all museums to look in to using it to its potential.

When an Exhibit (Event) is put together the objects are put into the module in the objects tab and we then photograph the exhibit when complete and put the images in the multimedia tab.

The email notifications worked like this (when we used it previously): if you assign a certain task relating to the event to Jim Smith and you enter his name into the tasks tab and he has a party record and in his party record he has a email address then KE should automatically send him a notification of the task that you have assigned from the Events module. We don't use that feature here because we had some problems when we used it with the conservation module a couple years ago, but that is how it work with that module.

I hope the above makes sense and I didn't ramble to much. I really like the events module and I have tried to get my co-workers to use it as much as possible because I think it is so great.

Collections Assistant
National Museum of Naval Aviation
Pensacola, FL

12-Oct-05 09:00:00
Category: Using EMu

Hi Marion,

They are many advantages to using Crystal report. You can add images, you can create frequency reports on a large number of records, you can create fancy and quick report for the public and also you can share the reports with other users. Once you know how to use Crystal, you won't want to use Excel or Word report. It took me only 15 minutes to create a short report with images and adding the logo from our institution and this was for the managers. We haven't had any type of report requested by our users that we were not able to produce through Crystal.

Annie Laflamme
Canadian Museum of Civilization

08-Oct-05 09:00:00
Category: Using EMu


This method does not work as well when using form fed paper. What you'll have to do is measure your labels to see how many will fit on an 8 1/2 by 11 " sheet of paper and size your labels in Crystal accordingly.

A drawback of this is if you are not printing a full sheet of paper Crystal will feed through what it thinks is leftover space on the page so you'll end up losing some labels. To get around this you can manually feed the paper back to the beginning of the lost labels.

08-Oct-05 09:00:00
Category: Using EMu

Hi Carrie,

When you first create the report in Crystal, use the Report Wizard and select Mail Label as the report type. Once you've created the ODBC connection and selected the tables to include in the report hit 'Next' and hit 'Next' again on the field selection screen. This will take you to a screen that will let you define the label size, vertical and horizontal gap between labels and the page margins. You'll have to do some fiddling at this point with your measurements, you'll know you're close when the 'Number of Labels' in the bottom right matches your specs.

This is the way that I've done it in the past, does anyone have a better way to do this? I'd be very interested in a better method myself.


Brad Lickman
KE Software
Brad Lickman

Thanks Beth.

    Posted By gambleb on 10/8/2005 5:53:20 AM
    2. Select the Show Search... menu item from the File menu.

For those that are not aware, access to the Show Search function requires your EMu Administrator to add a 'daEditQuery' Table Operations setting to the Registry.

eg. Group|Admin|Table|ecatalogue|Operations|daQuery;daDisplay;daEditQuery... etc

I'd agree with Beth that it is not a function for inexperienced users!

    Thanks so much Forbes for creating this online arena for us

My pleasure.

- Forbes

Is there going to be a separate forum/place for Parties module?


Hi Nina - yes there will be. I will be updating the Forums in the next day or so. I have delayed so far cause I wanted to give people the chance to comment on the various proposals.



17-Nov-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

At The Manchester Museum we are running a series of projects
where a variety of users create their own Narratives to be attached
to the Catalogue and published on the web. These Narratives are a
combination of text and audio and video. We have recently setup a
response option on our web interface for Narratives to encourage
web-based users to contribute their own (as yet none have!) these
are emailed through to me to add to the Narratives. Eventually I
would like to see this fully automated and created without having to
come through an individual. Personally I would be reluctant to edit
any of these contributions - they are as valid as many made by our
curators. If a curator is unhappy about the content then they would
have an opportunity to respond - this could create an interesting
dialogue around the object (surely one of the things we're about).
There will always be a few mindless idiots who set out to cause
offence, but I don't think there's a huge danger of this.


16-Nov-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Given the kinds of user feedback one occasionally finds in sign-in books left in galleries during exhibitions, I would think that you would want to screen user comments carefully before incorporating them in your database.

Bonni-Dara Michaels
Collections Curator
Yeshiva University Museum

03-Sep-04 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Heather,

Queries across multiple tables do not work in EMu. KE’s solution for us was to ‘flatten’ the data for those fields of information that we felt were the main areas of interest to us. This means that they have saved selected information from the Taxonomy, Sites and Parties modules into the catalogue. From a user’s point of view this is acceptable, but from a programming/database design point of view it is less than desirable – resulting in data not always refreshing in the ‘flattened’ catalogue fields when changes are made to the Taxonomy, Sites or Parties records. I would be interested to know if anyone else has develop solutions to avoid this problem.



03-Sep-04 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I'm trying to query our EMu installation for field data located in a module against a large data set in another module (against our records that have attached images). Has anyone devised a way to successfully run large queries such as this one in EMu?

Heather Rolen
Bioinformatics Manager- Digitization
New York Botanical Garden

Hi All

The National Museum of Australia recently became live users of the EMu system on the 7th July. Although we have been readers of the list for a few months now, this is our first attempt at participating, and we are looking forward to getting to know our fellow KE users in the future.

All of the suggestions put forward by Will would be useful to us here at the NMA.

Also, in response to Malcolm's email on Summary data, if it was possible to put in some flexibility for the customer re their summary data, this could be helpful. Our catalogue summary data is of a one size fits all variety and if we were able to set it to particular groups, or for particular purposes, then I am sure our different groups of users would find a more focussed set of summary data useful to them.


Catherine Belcher
Manager, Opal Implementation
Content Services
National Museum of Australia

Hi Will,

1. We have a similar requirement in Loans. Rather than creating a
unique Rights record which may only be used once because a
particular condition is required it would be better to attach the
appropriate conditions individually.

2. Not an issue for us.

3. This would be useful to us as we are going to be adding large
numbers of images, audio and video files over the coming year.
With a detailed list view it would also be useful to display the file
size as well as type.


Hello Will et. al,

Here at NMNH in DC we are just in the process of drafting our requirements for merging our existing Transaction Management application into EMu.

Several of the points you bring up are requirements we have outlined. I'll address them by number.

1) We would like a template mechanism for Loan Conditions where one or more template text can be retrieved and then tailored for the specific loan specimen or loan as a whole.

We have the need to link several loans to a single movement as well as a single loan to multiple movements.

2) We don't have a current requirement for this but see it as useful.

3) Personally don't have an opinion here but it seems reasonable and useful.

Beth :-)

-- Beth L. Strohmayer - Computer Specialist
Informatics Office,
Office of the Associate Director for Information Technology
National Museum of Natural History
Smithsonian Institution

05-Jul-04 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I'd like to second Lynn's call for help on this issue.

We're wrestling with similar issues in relation to a new content management system for our institution. I've heard that KE are contemplating improving their multimedia module so it can effectively be the central repository for all digital assets - could someone confirm if this is the case?

FYI In terms of our institution (AGSA) we are moving to attach a large range of non-collection images to EMU - images (e.g. installation shots, openings, TVC) multimedia to 'exhibitions' records in the Events module, other images to Parties records etc.

Adam Free
Curator of European Paintings & Sculptures
Art Gallery of South Australia

27-Mar-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Judith,
I have a few follow up questions regarding your post below.

    All of the foregoing are "official" digital files and we control sizes and
    formats tightly.

Can you give me more details about this?

    However, we are also quite flexible in allowing researchers to enter
    whatever sizes or formats they wish to have in their own private
    repositories. We set different repository access for users and groups of
    users that restricts access to images in the multimedia module only and not
    those linked to other records. There are many images that are in the
    multimedia module only and not attached to records anywhere else in the
    system. For some of these we have also created a web interface for external
    users to access some of these images on a password basis.

Does your institution provide the storage and networking to storage for
these additional files? Can you elaborate on how this system was set up,
especially the web interface for external users?

Heather Rolen
Bioinformatics Manager- Digitization
New York Botanical Garden

11-Mar-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Will

We will be using KE's interface on our Intranet, but not on our web site.
We're working on a separate system to publish data from EMu to the web.

We need to do this in any case because we intend to make a selection of our
data available via an OAI repository (
for harvesting by Picture Australia
( Restructuring XML data on the
fly from EMu in an OAI compliant format is complex and slow.

The system we're working on will automatically dump updated data from EMu
each night and export it into a SQL database. From there our web developers
will be able to use it for our OAI repository, and for web sites built using
ASP (or whatever).

We believe this method has certain advantages:

- Technical maintenance/data loading in EMu etc will not have any impact on
our ability to publish to the web

- no increase in EMu server load due to web queries from outside

- no slow down in web query response times due to complex queries being run
on the EMu server

- improved web query response time; our published datasets are much smaller
than EMu. Our publishing database will only hold a fraction of the fields,
and a fraction of the records (so much smaller indexes). The automatic
migration process will restructure our data so that it is optimised for the
types of web queries we want to build. Query times will be much faster.

Hope this has been of some help!


11-Mar-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Dear Will

We are moving towards being on line by about September this year -
however, we plan to do it by creating a phantom KEMu - leaving out the
data that we would never want to make publicly available - such as the
valuations and the locations and conservation history

We anticipate having to purchase a new licence/s for this

I understand that the National Gallery of Australia site actually plugs
straight into their main data base - something that I personally think
is way too risky. I have been told that they have all the necessary
protection but personally I think that, if it is true, there is no
protection good enough

When our site is up we will have the phantom version on a different
server and it will be upgraded regularly through CD rom download
manually and then physically re loaded onto the phantom data base -
how frequently that will happen will depend on staff resources.

Parliament House Art Collection

04-Mar-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

     > Would any other users find the following changes to the Parties module
    > useful?

        > 3a. Party Type: Collaboration: add a column to the table that allows start
        > and end dates of the collaboration (similar to the table on the Associations
        > tab), and use these dates in the linked Creator grid in the Catalogue in
        > lieu of Birth/Death dates. We have many partnerships that we want to enter
        > as Collaborations but then the Catalogue records do not report dates, which
        > our users want to see. It also makes including dates in reports difficult,
        > because although each member of the collaboration has his/her own life
        > dates, we also would want to report the commencement and completion dates of
        > the partnership itself. Another way to accomplish this would be to allow the
        > History tab to be included in the Collaboration record.

    This sounds sensible, either way.

        > 3b. Party Type:Collaboration: there are times (admittedly rare but
        > increasingly common in contemporary art) where we want to establish a
        > collaboration between two individuals but give the collaboration a summary
        > name other than simply the two party names concatenated tegether. For
        > example, Doug and Mike Starn are artists who work together under the name
        > "The Starn Twins". We'd want to set up parties records for each of them and
        > then a collaboration record, and give the collaboration the name "The Starn
        > Twins", which would then appear as the summary data for the record and in
        > any linked fields in the Catalogue etc. As it stands, the name of this
        > creator/collaboration would be "Starn, Doug and Starn, Mike" which is not
        > how that creator is known. There are other examples like this, such as
        > "Gilbert and George" and "Komar and Melamid".

    As we have works by Gilbert and George we would welcome this.

        > 4. Provide an additional (optional) Address tab to allow for multiple
        > (primary and secondary) addresses.


        > 5. Provide a multi-value field on the Organization tab called something like
        > "Staff". Here one could enter the names and titles of staff who work at the
        > organization, without having to create separate Parties records for them. We
        > frequently have this need in the records of borrowers and lenders.


27-Feb-04 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I may be mistaken, but I think the summary data strings can be tailored to
each site--in other words, you could have the department added but others
who don't need it don't have to…

03-Feb-04 11:00:00
Topic: Holders
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Barbara

At Museum Victoria, holders are identified by barcode as in [Holder Type]
[Barcode Name] - eg. "Box L0045354"

Including the unique identifier in the Location Code field renders the
lookup table on that field fairly useless because you end up having as many
lookup table entries as there are holder records. However it is necessary to
do this if you wish to identify child records (holders within locations)
from the parent record.

I've modified our location summary data to append the value in the Holder
Name field to the summary of the parent record. This gives the complete
location code (as described in the MvCIS documentation)


Record for a Pallet:
* MORELAND - STORE J - ROW 9 - BAY 20 - LEVEL C - Pallet L1001283

Record for a Box on a pallet:
* MORELAND - STORE A - ROW 2 - BAY 3 - LEVEL B - Pallet L0004535 -
Box L0056463

Collection Systems Developer
Museum Victoria

04-Dec-03 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I'm interested to know how other institutions are setting protocols or 'best
practices' in regard to allowing users to attach multimedia files. Are you
restricting the file sizes in the registry, then negotiating special cases
on an individual basis? What about video attachments or sound files, etc?
Are you restricting these types of attachments?


25-Nov-03 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Dear Will,
The National Gallery of Australia has a very aggressive
loans and exhibition program and uses EMu extensively for these
purposes. Catalogue records are created but given different Object and
Collection Status to permanent works for incoming works. Loan and
Exhibition information is recorded using the relevant modules and
location tracked through the Locations Module.
EMu is a very important tool for the NGA and its Loans and Exhibitions
staff and is in daily use with few if any problems.

Adrian Finney
Associate Registrar - Documentation & Storage
National Gallery of Australia

17-Jul-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Dear all,

I totally agree with this point. At the NGA we need to be
able to do have multiple image resolutions available online - one for
internet and one of much higher resolution for our intranet. We also have
curators, conservation and exhibitions staff who need to be able to zoom in
on detail ( one of the main reasons for the intranet is to allow Mac users
access to EMu records).


16-Jul-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Bern,

    While it is possible to add support to limit the file size downloaded when
    viewing multimedia

To clarify my thoughts: I would like to be able to limit the size of a file
that can be saved by a user to the MMR - not opened from the MMR.

So if a user tries to create a new MMR record with a 20Mb Tiff, it tells
them that they cannot do that. It would be good to be able to set a
customised error message, and perhaps also to give some users/groups the
ability to override this.

My reason for wanting this is to stop drivespace from being taken up
(impacting on backup times etc), limit bandwidth requirements, and also to
promote appropriate use of the MMR (stop users from saving Images in formats
not supported by an organisation for example).



16-Jul-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I agree with Will's comments. Actually I think that it would be good to be
able to limit both file size and file type together. So you could save
jpegs's up to 200Kb and Tiffs up to 1 Mb (or whatever)

Forbes Hawkins

Museum Victoria

04-Jun-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

We are interested to know more about Forbes's suggestion regarding version tracking. We find that the current Resolutions tab does that pretty well but perhaps we are missing his point. Forbes, can you elaborate a bit?


A Document may be edited by several authors and revised repeatedly. There is
often a need to be able to keep each version and track these changes in
detail, including contributers, description of changes, etc.

The only way to do this in EMu is by creating an individual record for each
and every document. But there is no elegant mechanism to link these records
together, or to tell which is the preferred version.

Also (this gets away from version control a bit, but is still relevant):

You may have a need to document a particular concept (or object
description... whatever) for several different target audiences - a "fact
sheet" for example. The information you present in each version is the same,
but it is described or presented in different ways, depending on the target
audience (age group etc). Assuming each version of the document was recorded
in a separate MMR record, how do you link these records together?

I realise that there are workarounds that will achieve this (identical
title, grouping function etc etc) but there're pretty ugly.

An image may be used in several different ways, and require multiple file
formats, sizing etc. Emu copes with this just fine. But what if you need to
use an image for a particular application, and it requires cropping? Or a
border? Or ...? To do this at the moment, you would need to create a new MMR
record (from what I can tell). Okay - but then how do you then associate the
new image record with the source image record? And how to you tell which
resolution instance was used as the source for the new image?


30-May-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi again,

One more thing: using reg settings, we would like to restrict the size (in
Kb) of files, and the type of files that can be inserted in the MMR.

It would be useful (for example) to stop users from inserting 40 Mb Tiff

Museum Victoria

30-May-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive


I'd like to see some additional version control functionality. Multiple
versions of a file can be included in a single MMR record, but we would like
to be able to record much more detail about each one. This could be done
either in a nested table in the record, or by introducing a parent/child
relationship to MMR records.

Another thing: I think that the native windows file browser is far more
preferable than the one in the MMR.

Forbes Hawkins
Collection Systems Administrator
Museum Victoria

30-May-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Hi Michael,

While not addressing your issue directly, here at the
National Gallery of Australia we do have a script to bulk load images. The
script is run from the command line and looks for the directory where the
images are. In our case we name the images with the EMu catalogue irn, this
enables the script to load the image in the MM module and drag catalogue
information across also (eg artist and title).

As for the black thumbnails, I have not come across this. I have even tried
loading images as large as 15M and had no problem (apart from the time it
takes to load such large files).

Adrian Finney
Assistant Registrar - Documentation
National Gallery of Australia

29-May-03 09:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive


I would like the Multimedia module to do batch processing of images e.g.
one provides a directory where the images are stored as well as the name
by which one wants these images to be known, EMu then creates the
multimedia records in sequential order.

I would also like the problem with black thumbnails to be resolved. By
that I mean, when I create multimedia records and the image size is larger
than 300-400k, attaching these records to catalogue records will more
often than not create a black thumbnails.

I noticed this problem mostly when converting huge tif files to jpegs. By
reducing the file size to 200 k, the problem disappears, but sometimes at
the expense of image quality.

Michael Afar
Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

21-Jan-03 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

Same problem we have Will and a fix would be most welcome.

Jackie Dunn
Acting Curator

21-Jan-03 11:00:00
Category: Archive
Forum: Archive

I just wanted to add to Will's concern about this issue.
Here at the National Gallery in Canberra, there are a wide number of users
with various skill levels and trying to explain this problem is extremely
difficult especially when text has been lost.
A solution to this problem would be extremely helpful.

Maree Darrell
Systems Officer
Registration Section
National Gallery of Australia

What happens to the work the client was in the middle of, especially if they were in edit mode? I realize that the client should at least save their work before going to a meeting, but we all know the reality! I personally like Will Real's idea that those in edit mode would not "time out."
Elisabeth R. Agro
Assistant Curator
Carnegie Museum of Art

Hi Will, KE and all,

My suggestion to KE a while back was to have a mechanism by which the Administrator could send a kill signal to remote EMu clients. Killing the process on the server will release the license, but it is a little inelegant because it leaves the client sitting there in the remote PC - when the user comes in the next day and starts using EMu, they'll get a nasty error message.

When a client receives a kill signal, it could pop up a confirmation message giving the user a chance to refuse the closure. If they don't respond within a few seconds, the client logs out.


Forbes Hawkins
Collection Systems Administrator
Museum Victoria


05-Dec-02 11:00:00
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This feature is not yet available, but the developers of our
support tool ensure me that they are working on adding this feature.

KE Software Support Team

16-Oct-02 09:00:00
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Thanks Andre for clarifying this - I will bring this feature to the attention of my colleagues. When you say "leave it turned on" does this mean that once I have done this for one record search it will do it for all subsequent searches or do I have to select this every time I or anyone else logs on? Incidentally and just for the record I certainly was not suggesting that the loans module is redundant!
Cheers Janet

16-Oct-02 09:00:00
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I think Ben's email of today and my email to Janet Miller address your question. Please note that the Loans module is very important for most, if not all, of our clients for managing the process of borrowing and lending as distinct from simply seeing the loan status of an object as you need to do. I suspect they would view it as a retrograde step to adopt the library way to doing things. If after trying Ben's approach and the functionality I described to Janet you think we could do a better job with loan status for an object record, please advise.



16-Oct-02 09:00:00
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Hello Janet,

KE EMu already provides this type of functionality. Please see … ttachments

By choosing View -> Show Attachments (F4) while on a Catalogue record, KE EMu will display a tab for each module that contains records that point to the Catalogue record you are on. You can make this the default behaviour by choosing either View -> Attachments -> Show Tabs to display these tabs even if there are no links for the current record or View -> Attachments Show Filled tabs to display the tabs only when there are linked records. If you leave this turned on, it may take a little longer to display your Catalogue record because the modules must be queried each time for links to Catalogue records.


15-Oct-02 09:00:00
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Andre - this is something which has come up for us too.Not sure that we want exactly the same as Barry but I agree that some kind of reciprocal flag or field or record button which appears in the catalogue record of the object and which links to the relevant loan module would be useful indicating /alerting us to any loan activity, that is forthcoming or current. As collection officer I am generally aware of any impending loans but for most of the other staff here who mainly use the catalogue module to search and retrieve data on the collection it would be helpful to know of any other activities imminent when consulting any given records!

Regards Janet Miller

15-Oct-02 09:00:00
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The Objects tab in the Loans module provides a list of object records
linked to the Loan. I am not sure I understand what other functionality
is required...


Andrzej Kowalski

03-Sep-02 09:00:00
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HI Lynne,
We depend quite heavily on using the "reason for loan" field as a look-up
It is critical in our calculation of statistics and departmental reports, as
well as our loan agreements.
You may find you can use it for the same purposes?
I have spoken with Barbara in the past about your implementation, and if you
wished to discuss it further please feel free to get in touch,

Maree Darrell
Systems Officer
Registration Section
National Gallery of Australia

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